Άλφα Λιποϊκό Οξύ (ALA)

[billys15]

Ειναι αληθεια οτι μιμειται την ινσουλινη και βοηθαει στην απορροφηση ουσιων; Το εχετε δοκιμασει; Διαβασα καπου οτι ειδικα αν συνδιαστει με κρεατινη σου δινει τρομερα αποτελεσματα.

[ajax]

το εχω παρει σε εναν λιποδιαλυτη τις muscletech ειχα δει καποια διαφορα...

[billys15]

Δηλαδη βγαινει μονο σε συνδιασμο με κατι; Δεν το βρισκουμε σκετο σε ιδανικες ποσοτητες για να μπορουμε να το προσθετουμε στο ροφημα,οπως με την δεξτροζη;

[sakisboy]

Δηλαδη βγαινει μονο σε συνδιασμο με κατι; Δεν το βρισκουμε σκετο σε ιδανικες ποσοτητες για να μπορουμε να το προσθετουμε στο ροφημα,οπως με την δεξτροζη;

βγενει και σκετο,Lipoid Acid λεγεται.

[Gasturb]

Bλέποντας την παρακάτω διατροφή - με την όποια επιφύλαξη αν δεν έχει υποστεί αλλαγές πριν την δημοσίευση -

http://forum.bodybuilding.gr/viewtopic.php?t=2211

χρησιμοποιείται ΑLA (Alpha Lipoic Acid) ως συμπλήρωμα?

Gt

[RUHL]

Ναι

Βασικα το χρησημοποιο εγω μαζι με Alpha-Methylguanidino Acetic Acid και εχω καλα αποτελεσματα

Κατι συμαντικο που λεει εκει πρεπει να το περνετε σε χαπια και οχι σκονη γιατι χαλαει κατι τετοιο οταν ερχεται σε επαφη με τον αερα.

ALA is an antioxidant that helps to inhibit the reactions of damaging “free
radicals”
When taken as a supplement, ALA increases the production of
gluthathione which helps dissolve toxic substances in the liver by
neutralizing free radicals produced in our bodies and thus protects cells

ALA and the LIVER!

Two "hopeless" patients lay in hospital beds. Both are diagnosed with incurable liver disease. One doctor thought to try a "new" product that had not really been tested. As a result, the patients made full recoveries. What was this magical drug? ALA! (2). ALA has been used to cure liver damage caused by poisonous mushrooms, alcohol, metal detoxification, and other poisonings. All this is possible because ALA can remove toxic minerals from the body (3).


Now this is where ALA comes into play. In order for glucose to be carried into cells, it must be attached to insulin. ALA is shown to have an insulin mimicking effect. So then more glucose would be shuttled to fat cells because the muscle cells are full, right? Wrong! Studies show that ALA increases Glut-4 transporters on the outside of muscle cells. This means more glucose can be shuttled into muscle cells and away from fat cells. Studies show that the amount of glucose shuttled to your muscles can increase from 50-60%. For those who are not that good in math: This means if you ate 100 carbs and originally without ALA, 40 grams of glucose went to your muscles cells and the rest, 60 grams, went to fat cells. Now, by supplementing with ALA, you have the power to send 60 grams of glucose and only 40 to fat cells. That is a big difference! How you ask.


Results During Cutting vs. Bulking

Results will differ depends on your diet. If you are bulking, you can expect to less fat and more muscle gain because of ALA nutrient partitioning effect.

Results from cutting are increased fat loss and a muscle sparing effect. Because your muscles are storing more glucose, your muscles will not become as depleted as they usually do when cutting. This helps you look full and not flat.

Dosage (per day)

200-600 mg will increase insulin sensitivity and lower blood glucose levels. Lower than 200 mg won't give you noticeable effects, except for ALA antioxidant properties. 600 mg-1200 mg will give you an increase in #1 1200-2000 will give you an increase in #1 and more noticeable fat loss. 3000 mg is "said" (Not a fact, just what has worked best for ALA users) to be the ideal dose to assist in massive fat loss, increase in insulin sensitivity, and increasing glucose.

I got these doses from experienced ALA users and other information I've read. They are a general ranges. It is best to divide you dosages up throughout the day. For example, if you are taking 1000 mg a day. You could take:

* 300 mg with breakfast
* 200 mg with a carb meal
* 300 mg post workout
* 200 mg with last meal
* Buying ALA

Increased Amino Acid and Creatine Uptake

This comes back to the increased pump. Because the muscle cells are in an enlarged state, more amino acids and creatine can reach them. Insulin increases amino acid and creatine uptake. Remember, ALA mimics insulin, which means it also increases amino acid and creatine uptake. There are a ton of creatine products on the market that are loaded with sugar. This is because sugar causes an insulin spike, which carries the creatine to muscle cells. The problem with this is an excess amount of sugar with cause you to gain fat. By supplementing with ALA you can carry more creatine to muscle cells without swallowing 75+ grams of sugar. I still recommend taking a simple sugary carb after your workout, but ALA can increase creatine uptake while you take a lower amount of sugar. This is very important for those who are cutting. They can get the same effects post workout without having to worry about storing excess carbs as fat.

http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/derek30.htm

[Gasturb]

μαζι με Alpha-Methylguanidino Acetic Acid

Πες το απλά 'μαζί με κρεατίνη' κ άσε τις εξυπνάδες

Gt

[RUHL]

Mην μου παιζεις τον εξυπνο γιατι εκανες λαθος μονουδατικη κρεατινη παρακαλω

[nickos46]

βασικά βοηθάει στο να μεταφέρονται τα συστατικά που τρώμε στους μεις μας αλλα και στην απορρόφηση τις κρεατίνης.και φήμες ότι δουλεύει και σαν προστατευτικό σε αυτούς που περνουν φάρμακα..

[Gasturb]

Συμπεριφορά παρόμοια με δεξ/μαλτο δλδ. Έτσι όμως αξίζει το κόστος?

Κάπού είχα διαβάσει ότι σε επαφή με το περιβάλλον μειώνεται η δραστικοτητά της οπότε προτιμότερο ειναι να χορηγείται σε κάψουλες κ όχι σκόνη - κατέληγε ότι οι φόρμουλες κρεατίνης μαζί με ALA ουσιαστικά ειναι μόνο κρεατίνη αφόυ τα οφέλη απο την μορφή σκόνης ALA μηδενίζονται.

Gt

[RUHL]

Αυτο που μειωνει την δραστικοτητα μου θυμηζει την celltech

[Gasturb]

When buying ALA, you have to be careful. ALA is very unstable and rapidly degrades when exposed to the outside atmosphere. Some people think that as long as it is not exposed to atmospheric conditions for extended periods of time, it will be fine. But even a brief period of time can cause massive degeneration of the product. That is why it is not wise to buy ALA in powder form. It is most likely useless. An especially big no-no is buying creatine products with ALA already in them. The only thing you are paying for is the creatine, because there isn't any ALA in those tubs.

The solution, buy ALA in capsules! Most companies are very careful when capping their ALA. AST, for example, uses ALA that is vacuum packed in UV protected plastic. Therefore, I do not recommend buying ALA from no name companies. I'm not saying their ALA is not quality ALA, but it's your money and I know I'd rather play it safe.

[Gasturb]

ALA + Creatine + Sucrose* = greater muscle creatine levels in muscle!

a-lipoic acid has been found to enhance glucose uptake into skeletal muscle in animal models. Studies have also found that the co-ingestion of carbohydrate along with creatine increases muscle creatine uptake by a process related to insulin-stimulated glucose disposal. The purpose of this study was to determine the effect of a-lipoic acid on human skeletal muscle creatine uptake by directly measuring intramuscular concentrations of creatine, phosphocreatine, and adenosine triphosphate when creatine monohydrate was co-ingested with a-lipoic acid. Muscle biopsies were acquired from the vastus lateralis m. of 16 male subjects (18–32 y) before and after the experimental intervention.

After the initial biopsy, subjects ingested

20 g · d–1 of creatine monohydrate,
20 g · d–1 of creatine monohydrate + 100 g · d–1 of sucrose, or
20 g · d–1 of creatine monohydrate + 100 g · d–1 of sucrose + 1000 mg · d–1 of a-lipoic acid for 5 days.

Subjects refrained from exercise and consumed the same balanced diet for 7 days. Body weight increased by 2.1% following the nutritional intervention, with no differences between the groups. There was a significant increase in total creatine concentration following creatine supplementation, with the group ingesting a-lipoic acid showing a significantly greater increase in phosphocreatineand total creatine.

These findings indicate that co-ingestion of a-lipoic acid with creatine and a small amount of sucrose can enhance muscle total creatine content as compared to the ingestion of creatine and sucrose or creatine alone.


* Στην θέση της σουκρόζης να βάλετε δεξτρόζη

[RUHL]

Τελικα θα δοκιμασεις το ΑLA Γκας?


Εγω σκεφτομαι τωρα στο αμεσο μελον να δω τι λεει αυτο σχετηκα με το λιπος δλδ να βαλω ΑLA στα γευματα μου με υδατανθρακα.

Μια χαζη ερωτηση ας πουμε κανουμε cheat meal και παρουμε ala τι γνωμη εχετε ? λιγοτερο λιπος θα παρουμε?

[Gasturb]

Τελικα θα δοκιμασεις το ΑLA Γκας?

Όποτε θα μπάινω σε κύκλο κρεατίνης ναι θα το παίρνω ούτως η άλλος δεν είναι καμμία περίεργη φόρμουλα απλά ωμέγα 3.

Εγω σκεφτομαι τωρα στο αμεσο μελον να δω τι λεει αυτο σχετηκα με το λιπος δλδ να βαλω ΑLA στα γευματα μου με υδατανθρακα.

Όχι δεν χρειάζεται εδώ Άλεξ μιας κ αν η διατροφή σου περιέχει λινέλαιο εισαι μια χαρά.

Έσυ ξεκίνησες να μου λες για το ALA πριν ανοιξω το thread, thank u man

Gt